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Re: Audio input question

Willi, OE1WKL
 

Steve,

The input level can be within a wide range, as you have a control to adjust it (the blue potentiometer). And headphone level is good enough.

Be aware the the input had to be between tip or 1st ring and 2nd ring as ground (I followed the norm, which would be stereo, therefore 2 pass for the input).

The audio output is not there to listen to the audio input - whatever the Morserino generates will be available as a sinus tone on this output. You can use this for icw or foR modulating an FM radio, for example.

If you want to listen to the radio's output, you can use a headphone splitter to get a second output before you feed it into the Morserino.

73
Willi


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Am 25.11.2019 um 17:37 schrieb Steve G1YBB via Groups.Io <tenchy@...>:

Hi, 

I am looking at the manual but I am not clear on a couple of points. 

The audio input connector, 4 poles. 
The audio input signal from a radio on tip and 1st ring,  would that want external speaker level or headphones level? 
2nd ring and sleeve can that be used for headphones to listen to the radio also? 

Thanks 
Steve 
G1YBB 

Audio input question

Steve G1YBB
 

Hi, 

I am looking at the manual but I am not clear on a couple of points. 

The audio input connector, 4 poles. 
The audio input signal from a radio on tip and 1st ring,  would that want external speaker level or headphones level? 
2nd ring and sleeve can that be used for headphones to listen to the radio also? 

Thanks 
Steve 
G1YBB 

Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Andre - WI9AJR
 

I like the eraser idea slightly better than the foam idea. Thanks for the concept... I wouldn’t have thought of that. 

Re: Paddles fall out too easily

 

…Perfect Doug !!!

 

73, Uwe

DL4ZBB

Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Doug KD9PK
 

Wow…. a LOT of talk over a problem that is so easily solved.
 
I lost a paddle during transport so I found a nice, wooden cigar box that was just big enough for the Morserino. Transport lose solved.
 
As for the paddles working themselves out of the socket. A pencil erasure and a sharp knife is all that is needed to fix the “issue”.
 
Cut off a slice of eraser just thick enough to insert between the top “cover” and the top of the paddles.
 
Happy paddling…
 
73
Doug
KD9PK


Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Willi, OE1WKL
 

No change in production whatsoever, material is 1.6 mm.
Should your paddles get lost: you can order a pair of spares, 8€ which includes shipping.

73
Willi

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Am 25.11.2019 um 13:33 schrieb Craig T. Bailey <@ctbailey>:

Mine fell out too, and I’ve actually lost one while transporting it back and forth between the vehicle.

I hope I’ll be able to purchase spare paddles on my next Morserino purchase.

Craig
On Nov 25, 2019, at 06:35, Eike Lantzsch via Groups.Io <zp6cge=gmx.net@groups.io> wrote:

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 10:11:52 PM -03 Andre - WI9AJR via Groups.Io
wrote:
I really didn’t expect a debate. You’d think I insulted someone’s mother.

Any downward pressure on the paddles, even at an slight angle while keying,
starts to pull the paddles out. it doesn’t have anything to do with
squeezing force during operation.
Hi,
I really don't understand this? The paddles of my morserino-32 sit really
tightly in their sockets. However hard I touch them they don't fall out.
Did the thickness of the PCB-material change during production? Mine are 1.6mm
thick.
Cheers to y'all and 73

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Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE







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Craig Bailey
N1SFT
NH, USA


Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Craig T. Bailey
 

Mine fell out too, and I’ve actually lost one while transporting it back and forth between the vehicle.

I hope I’ll be able to purchase spare paddles on my next Morserino purchase.

Craig

On Nov 25, 2019, at 06:35, Eike Lantzsch via Groups.Io <zp6cge=gmx.net@groups.io> wrote:

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 10:11:52 PM -03 Andre - WI9AJR via Groups.Io
wrote:
I really didn’t expect a debate. You’d think I insulted someone’s mother.

Any downward pressure on the paddles, even at an slight angle while keying,
starts to pull the paddles out. it doesn’t have anything to do with
squeezing force during operation.
Hi,
I really don't understand this? The paddles of my morserino-32 sit really
tightly in their sockets. However hard I touch them they don't fall out.
Did the thickness of the PCB-material change during production? Mine are 1.6mm
thick.
Cheers to y'all and 73

--
Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE





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Craig Bailey
N1SFT
NH, USA

Re: Updating by computer

Craig T. Bailey
 

Thanks Willi,

No disrespect was intended when I called it an “Arduino”.   

:)




On Nov 25, 2019, at 07:22, Willi, OE1WKL via Groups.Io <willi@...> wrote:

Currently you should use WiFi too upload a file.
There are tools available (but I do not have any experience with them) to load files into a Spiffs file system on an esp 32.
Btw, the Morserino-32 does not make use of an Arduino, it is based on an esp 32 processor. You can use (and I do) an Arduino IDE for programming it.

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Am 25.11.2019 um 13:15 schrieb Craig T. Bailey <ctbailey@...>:

I don’t think the Arduino has USB “file handling” capabilities.

As far as I understand, the Arduino board has very limited input over USB.  For example when you are compiling the software in the Arduino development IDE, we can push the new firmware using USB.

And I understand there is a way to send a packaged .bin (.img) file.

But, along the lines of the question at hand:  
Can we incorporate these “extra” files into the Arduino IDE and send them, along with and during a compile upload?

Craig 


On Nov 25, 2019, at 06:15, kc2czkradiowaveradio via Groups.Io <pilinlife@...> wrote:

Hi All 
  Question can I up date and add files to my Morserino by just converting to my lap top
 Instead of by Wi-Fi ?
 Thanks 
Rich

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Craig Bailey
N1SFT
NH, USA

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Craig Bailey
N1SFT
NH, USA

Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Eike Lantzsch
 

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 10:11:52 PM -03 Andre - WI9AJR via Groups.Io
wrote:
I really didn’t expect a debate. You’d think I insulted someone’s mother.

Any downward pressure on the paddles, even at an slight angle while keying,
starts to pull the paddles out. it doesn’t have anything to do with
squeezing force during operation.
Hi,
I really don't understand this? The paddles of my morserino-32 sit really
tightly in their sockets. However hard I touch them they don't fall out.
Did the thickness of the PCB-material change during production? Mine are 1.6mm
thick.
Cheers to y'all and 73

--
Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE

Re: Updating by computer

Willi, OE1WKL
 

Currently you should use WiFi too upload a file.
There are tools available (but I do not have any experience with them) to load files into a Spiffs file system on an esp 32.
Btw, the Morserino-32 does not make use of an Arduino, it is based on an esp 32 processor. You can use (and I do) an Arduino IDE for programming it.

Von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet

Am 25.11.2019 um 13:15 schrieb Craig T. Bailey <ctbailey@...>:

I don’t think the Arduino has USB “file handling” capabilities.

As far as I understand, the Arduino board has very limited input over USB.  For example when you are compiling the software in the Arduino development IDE, we can push the new firmware using USB.

And I understand there is a way to send a packaged .bin (.img) file.

But, along the lines of the question at hand:  
Can we incorporate these “extra” files into the Arduino IDE and send them, along with and during a compile upload?

Craig 


On Nov 25, 2019, at 06:15, kc2czkradiowaveradio via Groups.Io <pilinlife@...> wrote:

Hi All 
  Question can I up date and add files to my Morserino by just converting to my lap top
 Instead of by Wi-Fi ?
 Thanks 
Rich

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Craig Bailey
N1SFT
NH, USA

Re: Updating by computer

Craig T. Bailey
 

I don’t think the Arduino has USB “file handling” capabilities.

As far as I understand, the Arduino board has very limited input over USB.  For example when you are compiling the software in the Arduino development IDE, we can push the new firmware using USB.

And I understand there is a way to send a packaged .bin (.img) file.

But, along the lines of the question at hand:  
Can we incorporate these “extra” files into the Arduino IDE and send them, along with and during a compile upload?

Craig 


On Nov 25, 2019, at 06:15, kc2czkradiowaveradio via Groups.Io <pilinlife@...> wrote:

Hi All 
  Question can I up date and add files to my Morserino by just converting to my lap top
 Instead of by Wi-Fi ?
 Thanks 
Rich

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Craig Bailey
N1SFT
NH, USA

Re: Updating by computer

arnold@...
 

HI!
If you span up a W-ALN with your laptop it's a normal process… So If you don't have a W-LAN nearby that would be a solution. Just follow the instructions in the documentation.

Of Course you can iunstall the IDE and download the compiled files to the ESP, but I guess this is not what you want to do.

To my knowledge there is not a simple easy way to download via the USB cable / I guess that|s what you are lookung for.
-AH-

Updating by computer

kc2czkradiowaveradio
 

Hi All 
  Question can I up date and add files to my Morserino by just converting to my lap top
 Instead of by Wi-Fi ?
 Thanks 
Rich

Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Willi, OE1WKL
 

As Chris said, they require really just a very slight touch, and you should try not to slap them, like you might a mechanical paddle.
If you cannot resist slapping (no, I’m not going into that now…), try to wedge a small piece of rather stiff foam (about 4 mm thick - 1/6 in) between the paddles and the acrylic top plate, see the picture. This should take care of that….

73

Willi
OE1WKL

Am 25.11.2019 um 00:33 schrieb ChrisPR <cprennie@...>:

They're capacitive touch paddles and as such, require a gentle touch. Simple. If you prefer a more mechanical feel, then connect a mechanical paddle. Simple also...

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 at 18:55, Matthew Pullan <m0feu@...> wrote:
If you're knocking the capacitive paddles out of their socket, your going to need a pretty heavy key if you're going to avoid slapping it round your desk. A good guide to the right pressure to use is here:

Of course, some people have a naturally more physical style that is still very fast, but note how the paddle needs to be bolted down in this video:

The Morserino 32 paddles were not developed with that kind of keying in mind, sorry.

                73 de OE6FEG / M0FEU
                        Matt


From: morserino@groups.io <morserino@groups.io> on behalf of DL4ZBB Uwe John <dl4zbb@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 6:43:49 PM
To: morserino@groups.io <morserino@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [morserino] Paddles fall out too easily
 

…I agree with Jürgen.

I like the morserino (soft) paddles. I like the morserino…

 

73, Uwe

DL4ZBB





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Re: Paddles fall out too easily

ChrisPR
 

They're capacitive touch paddles and as such, require a gentle touch. Simple. If you prefer a more mechanical feel, then connect a mechanical paddle. Simple also...

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 at 18:55, Matthew Pullan <m0feu@...> wrote:
If you're knocking the capacitive paddles out of their socket, your going to need a pretty heavy key if you're going to avoid slapping it round your desk. A good guide to the right pressure to use is here:

Of course, some people have a naturally more physical style that is still very fast, but note how the paddle needs to be bolted down in this video:

The Morserino 32 paddles were not developed with that kind of keying in mind, sorry.

                73 de OE6FEG / M0FEU
                        Matt


From: morserino@groups.io <morserino@groups.io> on behalf of DL4ZBB Uwe John <dl4zbb@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 6:43:49 PM
To: morserino@groups.io <morserino@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [morserino] Paddles fall out too easily
 

…I agree with Jürgen.

I like the morserino (soft) paddles. I like the morserino…

 

73, Uwe

DL4ZBB


Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Andre - WI9AJR
 

I really didn’t expect a debate. You’d think I insulted someone’s mother.

Any downward pressure on the paddles, even at an slight angle while keying, starts to pull the paddles out. it doesn’t have anything to do with squeezing force during operation. 

Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Matthew Pullan
 

If you're knocking the capacitive paddles out of their socket, your going to need a pretty heavy key if you're going to avoid slapping it round your desk. A good guide to the right pressure to use is here:

Of course, some people have a naturally more physical style that is still very fast, but note how the paddle needs to be bolted down in this video:

The Morserino 32 paddles were not developed with that kind of keying in mind, sorry.

                73 de OE6FEG / M0FEU
                        Matt


From: morserino@groups.io <morserino@groups.io> on behalf of DL4ZBB Uwe John <dl4zbb@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 6:43:49 PM
To: morserino@groups.io <morserino@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [morserino] Paddles fall out too easily
 

…I agree with Jürgen.

I like the morserino (soft) paddles. I like the morserino…

 

73, Uwe

DL4ZBB

Re: Paddles fall out too easily

 

…I agree with Jürgen.

I like the morserino (soft) paddles. I like the morserino…

 

73, Uwe

DL4ZBB

Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Juergen Wagner
 

Hello hombrew fans,
I'am surprised again: are there only  builders with two left hands .... .. ?
the paddles will be hold via the spring contacts - what lies closer to bend this contacts a bit more so that
the holding force will be increased ?
And when that is not enough: a long screw through the board - between the paddels and above the paddles a cross board... that helps against the biggest sausage fingers .... ..
By the way: my paddles working with gentle'st touch - if there is no force - nothing happens. - cause and effect.
I think a vy good way would be to explain peoples what are "TOUCH"-paddles and how they work. When the candidates
want to squeez, than an external vibro or mfj may be the first choice.
hpe this hints helps a bit.
73
Juergen
DL4KE

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Am 24.11.2019 um 15:35 schrieb Andre - WI9AJR via Groups.Io:

Is there a good way people use to keep the paddles from falling out so easily? I find myself accidentally popping them off even during keying.

 

Thanks,

Andre


Re: Paddles fall out too easily

Richard Lawn
 

I agree. I was doing a presentation to my club on learning cw and brought the morserino 32 to show and as people played with it the paddles kept loosening. I’d hate to glue them.
Rick, W2JAZ 
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